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Comparisons with other types

Czech Roundel
Comparison between BM and FV432

The Whys and Wherefores!

Since the introduction of the BMP series the world has moved on - it is said, truly, that advantages in Military technology are the most fleeting of all. That said it was over a decade - sometimes more - before NATO forces fielded a compatible rival to the BMP and it's derivatives. To illustrate the UK's; FV-432 was still in service up until the late 1990's when it gradually began to be replaced by the FV-510 Warrior which is remains true to the concept of the "battlefield taxi". On this page we will look at the various equivalents of the time as fielded by NATO as well as their wheeled equivalents so the reader can see how time and technology moves on. It is worth noting that, although these designs all stem from the 1960's all but one of these types are STILL performing well on active service somewhere in the world.

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A difference in doctrine....

In the post war period the West followed the practice set during the latter days of WW2 where obsolete tank types had their turrets were removed and used to ferry bodies of men to the front line Whilst in transit the troops were protected from hostile fire to some degree ( there was no roof armour so splinters and shrapnel from air bursts would still cause problems). The post-war carriers improved on this by having armoured roof's but remained at heart the euphemistically named "Battle Taxis". One at the front the troops had t dismount and, once outside protection of the carrier were exposed to all that was hostile in the area. The US built M-113 and the UK;s FV-432 are classic examples of this. Inside the vehicles the troops are protected from hostile fire and any NBC (Nuclear, Biological, Chemical) agents that may be present in the battle area.

When the Soviets looked at replacing their ageing carriers they too initially followed this pattern of thinking, However the designers also took on board the lessons learnt from those soldiers who rode into battle on the back of T-34's at Kursk and afterwards and put all these into the vision that started life as Ob'yekt 764 and eventually became known to the world as the BMP (Russian name is "Boyevaya Mashina Pekhoty" - which translates to Fighting Vehicle of Infantry. Thus the Infantry Fighting Vehicle was born! The idea was advanced for it's day in that it presumed the lack of any fixed water crossings was a given and therefore was fully amphibious. Compare this with the "afterthought" approach of the NATO equipment where additional work is required to get the vehicle into amphibious mode. As with it's opposite numbers in NATO the basic design was also modified to cover a variety of roles such as Ambulance, Artillery Fire Control, Command and Control, Signals, Mortar platforms, Radar, Recovery, Engineering etc. Of course - the Soviets added a propaganda platform to this!

Although the initial design of the BMP series had it's faults (what doesn't when it is the first of anything) the core philosophy has remained viable - so much so that the BMP-3 is the latest version in service with BMP-1 and -2's also in the front line with some countries around the world. BMP-4 is on the drawing boards - contrast this with the West's approach in replacing the vehicle types every so often.

Lastly one final point ought to be made. There is a common perception in the Wet that the Warsaw Pact equipment is crude, unrefined and poorly assembled. The truth could not be farther away - look for yourselves at the internal photos on these pages, the finished quality of the equipment may be seen there. Where the stories are true is that the equipment was built to be handled by a conscript, peasant army and as such everything operate in the simplest possible manner. To illustrate - in the 432 or the M-114 steering is done by tiller levers which also control the vehicle braking - there is no brake pedal or handbrake lever. The OT-90 however is like a car in that it has clutch brake and accelerator pedal and a handbrake - a young conscript fresh the farm and it's tractors would have no trouble in controlling one from the start, Compare these photos of the drivers positions in the FV-432 and the OT-90:

FV-432 Drivers positionOT-90 Drivers Position

Alvis Saracen (NATO - UK)

Alvis Saracen

A permanent 6x6 personnel carrier based on the FV-6xx series of vehicles, powered by a Rolls Royce B80 petrol engine. Welded steel construction, It had a crew of 2 and carried a complement of up to 11 troops. No ability to fight from inside the vehicle other than from the turret or an exposed gun ring over the troop compartment, Not NBC proof. Not amphibious. Replaced in service by FV-432

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OT-64 (Warsaw Pact - Czech)

OT-64

A selectable 8x8 personnel carrier powered by an air cooled Tatra diesel engine, Welded steel construction, It had a crew of 3 and carried a complement of between 10 to 18 troops; Limited ability to fight from inside the vehicle in that only a few of the troops carried had access to a firing port - the ports were not NBC proof. Partial NBC protection. Fully amphibious with twin external props and no additional work needed to enter the water. Still in service.

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FV-432 - (NATO- UK

FV-432

A fully tracked personnel carrier powered by either a Rolls Royce B81 petrol engine or Rolls Royce K60 multi-fuel diesel. Welded Steel construction. Carried a crew of 2 and 10 troops. No ability for troops to fight from within the vehicle (other than the mortar carrier variant). NBC proof. Amphibious but required additional works (i.e. fitting/erecting floatation screens) before able to enter water. Replaced in service by Warrior - reintroduced due to needs of Iraq and Afghanistan.

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OT-90 (Warsaw Pact - Czech)

OT-90

A fully tracked personnel carrier powered by a UTD-20l diesel engine said to be capable of limited multi-fuel operation. Welded steel construction, Carried a crew of 3 and 8 troops. All 8 troops could fight from inside the vehicle. NBC proof. Fully amphibious with no additional work required before entering water. . Still in service despite advent of BMP-2 and BMP-3



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M-113 (NATO - USA)

M-113

Fully tracked personnel carrier powered by a Detroit diesel engine. Welded aluminum construction. Carried a crew of 2 plus 11 troops. No ability for troops to fight from within the vehicle. NBC proof. Amphibious - not known if additional work is required before entering the water., Still in service.

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Comparative Data

  Saracen OT-64 FV-432 OT-90 M-113
Length 4.8 m 7.44 m 5.25 m 7.13 m 4.86m
Width 2.54 m 2.55 m 2.8 m 2.94 m 2.67 m
Height 2.46 m 2.71 m 2.28 2.10 2.50m
Weight 11 tons 14.5 tons 15 tons 13 tons 12 tons
Speed -On 44 mph 58 mph 32 mph 40 mph 42 mph
Speed - Off 20 mph TBD TBD 28 mph TDB
Range 248 mi. 440 mi. 360 mi. 372 mi 298 mi.
Crew 2 3 2 3 2
Troops 11 10 to 18 10 8 11

 


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